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I’m an atheist, but…

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… I think it is important that the skeptic community not be subsumed by the atheist community.  What am I talking about?  I’m talking about something as seemingly trifling as a name.  At Skepticon IV this year, Dave Silverman gave a call-to-arms talk about why we in the skeptic community should adopt ‘atheist’ as our preferred nomenclature.  I think the term ‘atheist’ is a fitting description, but only in the context of the God question.  Other than that, it says very little about the movement, or community, or whatever.

Silverman’s argument is basically this:

1. “Atheist” is the broadest category that we all fit under.

2.  If we all go by the broadest category in describing ourselves, then our movement/community will be more unified and politically powerful.

3. We want that to happen, so, let’s all go by the name “Atheist”.

Let me start by saying that I think it is important to have a strong and vocal atheist community, both to let politicians know that many Americans are atheists, and also to let theists know that one can be an atheist and a decent person.  However, I think there are a few problems with placing priority on the issue of atheism, and by describing the community as a whole with the term ‘atheist’.  I’ll mention these problems, and suggest that the community is best described as the skeptic community.

You might wonder, who cares about a name?  As Silverman mentions, names are important for asserting political presence.  In particular, he mentions those questionnaires about religion in America.  By all means, if you don’t believe in God, that is, if you lack a belief that God exists, respond with ‘atheist’ on those questionnaires.  Often there are alternative responses available to a non-theist, like ‘agnostic’, ‘secular humanist’, etc.  Even if ‘skeptic’ is an available choice, I suggest marking ‘atheist’.  The wealth of response options only serves to fragment our representative numbers, and allows the questionnaire’s data to support claims that under-represent the number of non-theists in America.  Of course, Atheism is not a religion.  But, it is a position about religion.  In fact, that’s all it is.  That is why it is so broad, and Silverman is correct to assert that on religious questionnaires, we are all atheists (if we are doing skepticism correctly…).

But not every issue that our community cares about centers on the question of the existence of a personal God.  Our community’s core values are so much more than the lack of a belief in God.  The term ‘atheist’ does not convey any commitment to critical thinking, science advocacy, or sincere inquiry.  These are the fundamental values at the core of the community, the positive contribution we offer to someone who joins, and to society as a whole.  Skepticism is what we offer, as a disposition to adopt for life in general.  Of course I don’t mean the radical philosophical skepticism of Descartes, or even Hume.  I mean the skepticism described by Paul Kurtz, founder of CFI, Skeptical Inquirer and CSICOP, Prometheus Books, former editor-in-chief of Free Inquiry, and our very movement itself.  It is the skepticism of skeptical inquiry, the search for good reasons to believe claims, and the commitment to epistemic integrity.

Uri Geller; Huckster.

Skepticism is the promise to oneself not to be gamed by the hucksters out there.  Atheism is one consequence of this, but there is so much more.  Atheism does not even begin to describe the community’s commitment to science or its methods.  Atheism does not describe one’s stance on critical thinking.  In fact, I’ve encountered many an atheist boasting only limited critical thinking skills, without any desire to improve them, content instead to broadly assert things without support.  People like that are not skeptics.  They don’t share my epistemic values.  They lack the humility of skepticism.

Through skepticism, we force ourselves to own up to our biases and flaws.  We practice this constantly, and seek unbiased support for our beliefs, or not finding any, we cease to have the beliefs.  We recognize that an intuition or feeling of confidence means very little when it comes to the justification of our beliefs.  Without evidence, without reasons, our beliefs are nothing more than suspicions.  This is the humility of skepticism.  Atheism does not describe this.  Atheism describes one’s position on the question of God.

Atheism does not describe the community’s commitment to science-based medical treatment.  The skeptic community has always been the debunker of bunk medicine, of homeopathy, of faith healers.  Skepticism describes the method of debunking.  You might think atheism better represents opposition to faith healing, but you’d be wrong.  Skepticism opposes faith, not because it describes one’s commitment to there being a God, but because it is epistemically irresponsible.  Skepticism opposes faith in general, no matter what crackpot belief it underlies.  Atheism opposes faith in God.  But even Atheism’s opposition need not be due to epistemic principles, but may merely be due to a disagreement with the belief.  As I said, there are many epistemically irresponsible atheists.

Silverman with inaccurate Venn diagram.


Silverman mentions that not all skeptics are atheists, and that not all atheists are skeptics.  This is true.  I would rather side with a skeptic who is not an atheist than an atheist who is not a skeptic, because it is more important to me that a person share my epistemic values, listed above, than the person’s position on the God question.  An atheist who is not a skeptic is just another troll, as far as I’m concerned.  A skeptic who is not an atheist is open to the arguments and the evidence, and will probably be an atheist soon.


Silverman with accurate Venn diagram


Finally, as with any good skeptic who is also an atheist, it is in principle possible to convince me that God exists.  All it would take is evidence and a good argument.  If you are an atheist, and you maintain that there is no way you would ever believe in God, then you are not a skeptic.  However, even if I were somehow convinced that God exists, I would not cease being a skeptic.  I would still adhere to the same core epistemic values of critical thinking, honest inquiry, and empirical support for beliefs.  I would still be a science advocate.  These are things about me that will not change, no matter how my particular beliefs may shift.  I’ll note that I think it is highly unlikely I will ever believe in God, but it is still in principle possible.  Because these core values will remain constant, I think I am best described by a term that captures these core values.  That term is “skeptic”.

So, I suggest that one does respond to religious questionnaires by describing oneself as an atheist.  But that is because the skeptic community is not focused on the question of god, but instead embodies a much broader set of core values, that typically lead one to atheism.  But the term “atheist” is not appropriate for the community as a whole, because it is about only one question, and it is too inclusive.  An atheist who is not a skeptic simply does not make the cut.  A person like that may as well be an evangelical; s/he and I have almost nothing important in common.  We merely agree that there’s probably no God.

Here is Silverman’s talk.


Seth Kurtenbach is a philosophy PhD student at the University of Missouri.  His research focuses on applications of formal logic and game theory to questions about knowledge and rationality.  He is growing a mighty beard, in order to increase his philosophical powers [EDIT: He recently shaved his mighty beard, and has thus lost all of his philosophical powers.  :(   ].  Feel free to contact Seth at with inquiries about philosophy, logic, guest blogging, or visiting to give a presentation!

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3 comments on “I’m an atheist, but…

  1. Mike
    December 10, 2011

    “If you are an atheist, and you maintain that there is no way you would ever believe in God, then you are not a skeptic.”

    I think this remark is a touch too far. Some atheists adhere to the school of agnosticism that there is no way to know that God exists. There are real, fairly-sensible arguments behind that conclusion that someone does not have to abandon skepticism altogether to accept. People who accept them aren’t the same as people who have abandoned skepticism and reason.

    Indeed, although I don’t accept the argument that it’s impossible to have proof that god exists, I have a hard time imagining the evidence that could possibly lead me to believe there is a god. No matter what wonders a gods may perform, there is always a chance that the wonders are just performed by a well-equipped charlatan, and with any wonders I can imagine, the charlatan seems more likely

    • Tony Lakey
      December 10, 2011

      I think the problem here is with the dogmatism that that would imply. Certainly they would admit that if they were presented with a sound argument for why they should not be agnostic on the issue they would cease to be. If not, I have to problem saying they are not skeptical, or at least not correctly applying their skepticism.

  2. Tony Lakey
    December 10, 2011

    Posted my comment to the reddit page hoping it would generate some conversation.

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