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A comment about “Christian” bullying

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My friend, atheist advocate & activist, and SASHA blog guest author, Damon Fowler, posted this to Jessica Ahlquist in response to the treatment she is receiving by so-called “Christians” following the recent ruling regarding the prayer banner:

I’m really sorry you have to deal with that kind of treatment. People would always tell me “You don’t want to talk to those kinds of people anyway”, which is probably true, but it didn’t make it much better. I guess the best advice I can give is keep what friends you have close, don’t act like you’re bothered by it in front of them, and keep your online support on standby. I’m sure anyone would be willing to listen if you needed someone to talk to. I’m here and I know a bit about what you’re going through. Anyway, things will get better. You did a great thing. 🙂

My response:

I’m not trying to give unsolicited advice, but I disagree that someone should act like discrimination/bullying etc doesn’t bother them, if indeed it does (as it should!). Their behavior is not only completely unacceptable morally, but it’s also illegal, and ironically, anti-Christian. I think in some cases, in the face of egregious bullying, it can be more productive to call the bullies out on it, very publicly, especially if you have the option of “low-hanging fruit”; for example, you might say…

“Jesus said,  ‘You have heard it said, love your neighbor and hate your enemy. But I tell you, love your enemies, and pray for those who persecute you’ (Matthew 5:44). Jesus said, ‘If someone wants to sue you and take your shirt, let him have your coat as well’ (Matthew 5:40, Luke 6:29). Do you think that I am evil? Then remember what Jesus said about evildoers: ‘Do not rise up against an evil person; if someone slaps you on your right cheek, turn your other cheek to him as well’ (Matthew 5:39).

What you should really be doing, instead of getting mad at me, is asking yourself if you are really a Christian, or if you are what Jesus called the Pharisees, a hypocrite – the Greek word for an actor, someone who pretends to be righteous, but in reality, is selfish, prideful, and wicked. If you are really a Christian, you will do as Jesus commands, even when it’s difficult, ESPECIALLY when it’s difficult. If you are really a Christian, you will recognize your pride, your indignation, and stand up for what Jesus taught – tolerance, and peace with those who disagree with you, but most of all, forgiveness to those who persecute you. If you are really a Christian, you should be asking yourself, “Would would Jesus do?”

You believe that Jesus could work miracles, that he could do anything he could imagine with just a mere thought. When Jesus was being tortured by the Roman soldiers after his arrest, did he summon lightning to strike them dead? No, he prayed for them. When Jesus was hanging by nails through his feet and wrists on the cross, did he spit on his executioners, call them names, and threaten them? No, he asked God to forgive them.

In Romans 13, the Apostle Paul wrote, “Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.” By persecuting me, you are disrespecting the judge’s decision that the banner is unconstitutional, and by disrespecting the judge, you are disrespecting God. Christians are commanded to obey the governments that God has placed over them. When the Apostle Paul wrote that, he was writing under the Roman emperor Nero, perhaps the most tyrannical and anti-Christian government in Christian history. Under Emperor Nero, Paul – who, unlike Jesus and his other apostles, was a Roman citizen – was executed, a nearly unprecedented punishment for a citizen. The Apostle Paul had every imaginable reason to fight his government, but he steadfastly refused – in fact, he encouraged obedience, because this is what Christians are commanded to do. If Saint Paul could obey the decisions of his government, even in the face of his own execution, what makes you think you don’t have to?

You call yourself a Christian; why is it that I, an atheist, am more kind than you? Jesus wanted you, as his follower, to set an example of how to treat people, regardless of whether they are Christian or not, and ESPECIALLY if they persecute you. You call yourself a Christian; why is it that I, an atheist, am more civil, more peaceful, more gentle than you?

If you choose to persecute me, if you choose to disrespect the judge’s decision, understand that, as Paul himself said, you will bring judgment on yourself. Your words and actions are bigoted and hateful, not forgiving and peaceful, as Jesus taught. You are treating me this way out of your own selfishness, bigoted intolerance, and lack of respect, love, and generosity toward your fellow man. Further, your thoughts, words, and actions are explicitly against the instructions of both Saint Paul and Jesus himself. And if you are a Christian, you YOURSELF believe that you will face judgment for this. You think that I am going to hell because I am an atheist? I stood up for the United States Constitution, even though it was difficult, even though I knew I would face hatred from hypocrites like you. And I did it with respect, kindness, and a desire for tolerance. And what do you do in return? Directly, blatantly, and pridefully disobey Jesus himself. And as the Bible says, whoever keeps the whole law and yet stumbles at just one point is guilty of breaking all of it (James 2:10). So I have news for you: If you want to call yourself a Christian, you have two choices: Regardless of whether you agree with it or not, and regardless of what you think of me personally, you must respect the judge’s decision, and you must treat me with love, tolerance, peacefulness, and forgiveness, as Jesus commanded, or you will burn in hell yourself, according to your very own rules. The choice is yours.

If there’s one thing I hate, it’s having to teach someone their own damn religion. Ugh.

A note to Jess:

I want you to know that the 550+ members of SASHA are behind you 100%. You are an an inspiration, an amazing person. These “Christian” bullies, they get defensive and angry because that is how our brains respond to cognitive dissonance – when they are demonstrated to be wrong, but they cannot cope with it. They know they are wrong, but nobody likes to be wrong, and it’s easier for them to lash out at you instead. That is not only childish, selfish, and wicked, but it’s also anti-Christian. Their own religion tells them, in no uncertain terms, to love their enemies, to forgive those who persecute them, and to obey their government. Take heart in knowing that you are right, and no amount of bullying can take that away. And frankly, in terms of love, kindness, forgiveness, and tolerance, you are showing THEM how it’s done.

Keep up the great work. We’re here for you if there’s anything at all we can do to help. I’m looking forward to hanging out with you again and hearing you speak at the Reason Rally!


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5 comments on “A comment about “Christian” bullying

  1. Jared Cowan
    January 14, 2012

    It’s a wonder that in a world where if I did accept Jesus as my savior, I’d fundamentally be at odds with my parents anyway, since I’d be pacifist, pro choice/abortion rights, Unitarian and a believer in universal reconciliation, lol. And then there’s the church/state issue, which I’d stand with more classical understandings of Christianity where the kingdom of God and the church were radically separate from the state and the kingdom of man by association

  2. Derrik
    January 14, 2012

    It’s sad that many Christians would use an excuse to what you say along the lines of “well, we try to follow Jesus, but we’re only human”. Clearly they’re not trying very hard.

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  5. Dylan
    January 22, 2012

    Wow Dave, I honestly have to say that I applaud your take on this specific issue. I imagine there to be very few genuine Christians who could articulate this as well as you have.

    A few of your statements near the end have brought a couple of questions to mind that I’m interested to hear thoughts on. The funny thing is, I actually wanted to ask you similar questions to these months ago, but never got around to it. I realize that the majority of this post represents what you would suggest to be a proper response by someone else in regard to a particular incident, and that most, if not all, of the first-person statements contained in the suggested response refer to that someone else and not you. But for the sake of this discussion, let’s assume for the moment that you are this “someone else” (hopefully I haven’t thoroughly confused you already). 🙂 Here’s one of the statements that interested me:

    “You call yourself a Christian; why is it that I, an atheist, am more kind than you?…You call yourself a Christian; why is it that I, an atheist, am more civil, more peaceful, more gentle than you?”

    This appears to me to be somewhat of a comparative self-assessment (see definition @ In your statement, even though it is framed as a question, you are comparing your merit (in regard to a set of morals) to that of someone else (an alternative comparative assessment would be to compare your own merit solely to an established set of morals, not referring at all to any other person). I realize that you probably wrote this in keeping with the purpose of the post, to enlighten others on how “morally unacceptable” Christian “bullying” is; but in my opinion, your self-assessment is superfluous to this and in danger of portraying a prideful, “I’m better than you” attitude. People do this all the time to make themselves feel better about themselves (eg. “at least I don’t beat my wife like my neighbor does”; or “at least I’m not like the thief I just read about in the newspaper”).

    In any case, one question I have is this: Would an atheist/agnostic tend more often than not to compare his/herself to others when assessing his/her own moral merit, or would he/she be more apt to assess his/herself solely based on an established morality? It’s possible that this question serves best as a rhetorical question, a question that everyone should ask themselves from time to time; but perhaps it will elicit some discussion.

    Other questions I have are related to the first: Can there be an established morality for the atheist/agnostic, one that teaches all how to “do that which is right”? If so, where does it come from, or what contributes to it’s formation? Do you believe that science ultimately provides the answer?

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